Replacing the comments system with Facebook integration - discuss


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HairyArse
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So I'm considering integrating the Facebook social media plugin into the site's articles to allow people to comment whether they're a registered user or not.

I'm sure this will work great, but I don't want to alienate people. Especially people like NY who works for Mi5, is very secretive about his private life and who wouldn't post at all if he could only post on behalf of his real-life self.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
#1 at 10:36:28 - 23/04/2012
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FB stuff is blocked at work. Does that mean I wouldn't be able to interact with the comments section?
#2 at 11:09:58 - 23/04/2012
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Not sure really, as it wouldn't be redirecting you to the FB site, more just using a FB plugin. The other option is DISQUS.

I may not actually do anything, who knows, but I figured it was worth capturing the general consensus.
#3 at 11:12:05 - 23/04/2012
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Just installed DISQUS and plonked it on the bottom the comments section.

I think having both systems is really messy so it would be one or the other.
#4 at 11:19:11 - 23/04/2012
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Does that mean anything I comment would be posted on my Facebook profile?

If so, I say: nay, nay!
#5 at 11:42:40 - 23/04/2012
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It doesn't look that way. I just did a test post using my FB account and it's not on my wall - but yeah that's a very good point - would have to check for that, though I'm sure it can be disabled.
#6 at 11:47:25 - 23/04/2012
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repairmanjack said:Does that mean anything I comment would be posted on my Facebook profile?

If so, I say: nay, nay!


This. I prefer to keep my 'gaming self' and 'real self' seperate. I don't really want my non-gaming friends to see posts of me getting a hard-on over Borderlands 2 etc

Provided AATG-FB and real FB can remain seperate, then I'd be fine with it.
#7 at 14:26:55 - 23/04/2012
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I would cease all posting if you added Facebook, I might be alone in that though.
#8 at 15:24:51 - 23/04/2012
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I wouldn't comment when it's only possible through Facebook. Disqus is a good idea though! :)
#9 at 15:31:13 - 23/04/2012
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I think the current trial method - integrating both options is the most flexible - I just worry that it's a bit too busy.
#10 at 16:36:54 - 23/04/2012
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What's the difference between this DISQUS thing, and the current system of just allowing unregistered comments on the site?

And what's up with the recent spate of comedy "I love AATG"-type comments?
#11 at 17:00:42 - 23/04/2012
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Spammer keep coming in and posting links to VIAGRA and CIALIS sites. A few anonymous mods have started changing their comments to funny AATG recommendations.

I approve of this wholeheartedly.

#12 at 17:40:27 - 23/04/2012
Kay
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Ah, that makes sense. I thought it was just a few randoms being cheeky. :)
#13 at 17:56:39 - 23/04/2012
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HairyArse said:Especially people like NY who works for Mi5, is very secretive about his private life and who wouldn't post at all if he could only post on behalf of his real-life self

Despite this, do note that I've been suggesting this idea for months. :p
#14 at 18:48:16 - 23/04/2012
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HairyArse said:Spammer keep coming in and posting links to VIAGRA and CIALIS sites. A few anonymous mods have started changing their comments to funny AATG recommendations.

I approve of this wholeheartedly.



/raises hand

Fuck 'em, if they're going to use the high profile stories to pimp their shit, we'll just edit their posts to pimp the site instead :) Anyone with mod status is welcome to join in, of course :)
#15 at 22:24:31 - 23/04/2012
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Facebook stuff is blocked at work. But then so is AATG, so it wouldn't harm me.
#16 at 23:58:46 - 23/04/2012
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Don't have facebook, don't want facebook, don't like facebook.

Current thing you have in there looks like it would be useful for randoms maybe, but it was a bit confusing as to what it was at first, and looks a bit messy if you're already logged in anyway.
#17 at 03:53:06 - 24/04/2012
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Quite liked the integration with Google, that'll do me. Not sure I like the amount of 'trust' disqus wants with Facebook or Twitter so I guess I'll be sticking with Google for now.

Slick integration though, be gone spambots!
#18 at 08:31:14 - 24/04/2012
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Hmmm something's busto. Comment count no longer reflects what's been written accurately, which meant I commented on the trials article twice :)

#19 at 08:38:28 - 24/04/2012
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This is why I decided against using this system in the first place as I can't query (that I know of yet) the DISQUS DB to count comments which means I can't add them on the front page either.
#20 at 08:57:33 - 24/04/2012
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Durn, that's a pity. I guess it's a trade-off and given how slick the integration is otherwise it's probably no loss to ditch the comment count. At least it means that lesser-commented stuff might get looked at a bit more maybe?

Is there any way to get Disqus to display a 'last commented by' bit anywhere?
#21 at 09:39:46 - 24/04/2012
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I'm not sure. I haven't really looked into it all that much but there's gotta be some flexibility, surely?
#22 at 11:08:27 - 24/04/2012
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Hmmm I'd have thought so. Maybe I'll take a look this morning when it's quiet.
#23 at 11:11:15 - 24/04/2012
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I know that at least with Wordpress you can have a widget that displays recent comments.
#24 at 11:14:53 - 24/04/2012
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Ah looks like there's plenty of Javascript calls that can do all the goodies we need. So here's the comments count one:

http://docs.disqus.com/developers/universal/#comment-count

and here's how to dive into some of those variables to dig out things like 'person last commented' etc.

http://docs.disqus.com/help/2/

Cool, looks like this could be very interesting. I like the fact that you can also lock comment streams and moderate 'em too.
#25 at 11:21:06 - 24/04/2012
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With a low-traffic website like this, I tend to remember the comment count on anything I've commented on, and only check back if I see new ones have been added, I don't think it would be great to lose the comment count if avoidable.
#26 at 14:53:36 - 24/04/2012
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By the look of it, you can add the functionality other sites have where you get pipped back by disqus if someone comments on something you've commented on. Not sure if you need to register with disqus for that, but it could be a useful way of keeping track of what activity happens on a front-page comment thread.

Probably work even for the forum too, if we go that way in future.
#27 at 14:55:06 - 24/04/2012
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I suspect that this is one of those things that if we'd enabled from the get-go would have been a non-issue, but switching this late on means it's a whole different kettle of fish.
#28 at 15:15:01 - 24/04/2012
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Hmm probably. The jscript to grab the comments count looked pretty straightforward though but it would mean replacing the current count (dug out of MYSQL I guess) with whatever the disqus API requires.

As you say though, not easy to retrofit sites without breaking a lot of stuff :)
#29 at 16:07:38 - 24/04/2012
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Gee, if only there was a commenting system that encouraged people to post using genuine identities and thus minimised spam from payday loans...
#30 at 11:47:39 - 22/05/2012

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