Kane & Lynch, Gamespot, CNet and Eidos


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djchump
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Has anyone else been finding this all rather amusing, seeing the vitriol and bile rising on Digg and related newsfeeds?
Whilst I can sympathise with that Jeff guy, I can't say I really care all that much - but it is quite hilarious to see everyone putting the boot in to Eidos - especially now that Kotaku have spotted the Kane & Lynch "review" quotes on the official site are all from previews and some of the "quoted" reviewers/sites didn't give it 5 stars out of 5, as Eidos are claiming.

Internet Flamewar.... IGNITE!
#1 at 10:21:15 - 04/12/2007
peej
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It's stupid, and one thing it has highlighted is that the games industry, and a hell of a lot of review sites - are as bent as bananas so there's obviously a lot more buying off going on than everyone thinks.

At least you won't get that here. Hey, we've offered our arses to games developers and publishers so many times but they've turned us down so - alas - we end up reviewing stuff we've shelled out for, and that gives us dispensation to be as horrible about the games as possible if they're shite.

Kane and Lynch - 4/10. Unimaginative, ugly, clunky and strictly for gun nuts.

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#2 at 11:33:16 - 04/12/2007
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On Neogaf, if you type an Eidos game or a CNet website it stars it **** ****.
#3 at 11:38:37 - 04/12/2007
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Anyone else half tempted to write a very sweary "review" of said game and stick it up here? See what happens?

FUCK YOU UBISOFT
#4 at 11:40:34 - 04/12/2007
peej
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Stevas said:Anyone else half tempted to write a very sweary "review" of said game and stick it up here? See what happens?

FUCK YOU UBISOFT


Well if Nimble Thumbs are still going, I may be doing just that.

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#5 at 11:55:18 - 04/12/2007
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Kane & Lynch's user score on Gamespot? 2.6 from over 3,000 votes. Probably nowhere near enough for Eidos to actually care, but I like the message that it sends in principle.

I don't really think you can call it a flamewar when no-one is sticking up for Eidos, though - more like flamemassacre.
#6 at 12:08:04 - 04/12/2007
peej
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I bet Midway are glad this is taking all the heat off Area 51 though.

So aside from Espad / Whizzo, anyone here played it and care to offer up an opinion?

Peej
#7 at 12:09:01 - 04/12/2007
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I need to try a demo.

The online mode looks pretty interesting and co-op as well.

Can't say the gamespot review hasn't put me off a lot.
#8 at 12:12:58 - 04/12/2007
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peej said:So aside from Espad / Whizzo, anyone here played it and care to offer up an opinion?

not me, too much other gold out to bother with this, plus im stockpiling PS3 games for christmas day :)
i did notice whizzo playing it and a weird tv symbol(not the camera logo) next to his name??
#9 at 12:29:26 - 04/12/2007
Trip SkyWay
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I'd like to know the real story behind it all.

I found Jeff really funny on their pod cast and On the Spot. I tended to disagree with his reviews, but he at least said what he thought. Shame he's had to leave.

Disappointing news.
#10 at 12:34:26 - 04/12/2007
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Espad said:i did notice whizzo playing it and a weird tv symbol(not the camera logo) next to his name??
My 360 is holidaying in Havant at the moment (maybe it'll take a short trip over to Hayling Island while it's there?) as it's feeling poorly. I'm playing K&L on the PC, where it as a) nice and cheap at 18 quid b) running at high res and maxed out and c) using good old keyboard and mouse.

I'm quite enjoying it, it's so Michael Mann I'm surprised he hasn't sued, with some very diverse locations. I'm now on chapter 11 fighting a revolution in Cuba and it's become rather tricky to say the least. By tricky, I mean fucking hard.

All in all I'm glad I bought it. Bit buggy though (I had to switch from OpenAL to DirectSound or I was getting random CTDs, they've now stopped) and the narrative seems to have made a huge leap between chapters 10 and 11 like there's a mission or a cutscene that's not there.

Don't like that the level checkpoints aren't saved and there's no manual save either. Script, dialogue and voice acting is pretty top notch though and the characterisation actually makes you care a bit. Well for K&L at least, not for the hordes of cops and bad guys you kill nor for the civvies who, unfortunately for them, get in your line of fire.

The PC version is supposed to be quite a bit better than the console versions though and that's something I can put to the test when my rental turns up. At least once my 360 returns from the South Coast.

Games For Windows Live however is a fucking abortion and it should be killed, it not working with a mouse is so fucking retarded I can't believe Microsoft actually plays games these days without using a pad.

IT MUST DIE.

Oh and one thing for those who don't have access to the manual here's a quiz : what nationality is Adam "Kane" Marcus (the protagonist)?

Even if you've seen all the video footage and read tons and tons of previews you will almost certainly not get the answer correct.
#11 at 14:04:08 - 04/12/2007
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Whizzo said:
Oh and one thing for those who don't have access to the manual here's a quiz : what nationality is Adam "Kane" Marcus (the protagonist)?

Even if you've seen all the video footage and read tons and tons of previews you will almost certainly not get the answer correct.

Is this like finding out that the black bloke in R6V isn't supposed to be Aussie / Kiwi, but is, in fact, supposed to be English?
#12 at 14:16:31 - 04/12/2007
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Yup Kane is a British citizen, to say I was a bit surprised when I opened the manual and it had that in his bio is an understatement.

Given his wife and daughter are both American it's probable in his backstory that's where he's spent most of his adult life (so he has an American accent) but I'm just a bit puzzled why Io bothered making him British. Unless there's something I've not got to yet it makes no difference in the game.
#13 at 14:22:15 - 04/12/2007
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O_o

You really wouldn't know that unless you looked, would you?
#14 at 16:28:57 - 04/12/2007
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For those following this there's a statement from Gamespot, and some of the staff comment on the situation on the HotSpot podcast (at the same link).
#15 at 08:43:50 - 05/12/2007
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#16 at 21:49:21 - 05/12/2007
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That's pretty harsh wording, and doesn't clear much up. I wonder what the "managerial team"'s problems were. I guess he's a fairly loud character, maybe he's too outspoken internally as well, but he seems like a strange guy to get rid of as one of the major faces of Gamespot.
#17 at 02:13:21 - 06/12/2007
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I'm glad I listened to folks from forums I trust and not teh review sites. Back in the deen otday and went game shopping with my pal. He wanted tyo buy this but based on the above I talked him out of it. So we got good shit like ME, COD4, Skate, and, er Viva Pinata Animals, (for his lady - she chuffed)

And, er, EDF 2017.

Um.

Lads.

Does it stay shit or does it actually improve? And if one of ya dies in co-op can they ever come back to life?
#18 at 04:28:14 - 06/12/2007
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FlexibleFeline said:Jeff was terminated on November 28, 2007, following an internal review process by the managerial team to which he reported.

The sick fucks. That's no way to spin yourself back into the public favour.


Why does that make me feel the exact opposite to how it was intended to make me feel?

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#19 at 16:51:46 - 06/12/2007

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