What films have you been watching recently?


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eviltobz
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billdoor said:
Iron Man is the best superhero film I've seen, although I've yet to see the 2nd batman film.

i'd say that between the two of em, they prolly are the best superhero films so far. i'm totally gay for spidey but his films, whilst enjoyable and with definite moments of awesomeness, just aren't quite all that with little annoyances that just put me off a bit. ironman and bats 2 just seem that bit more polished with nothing to pull me out of the suspension of disbeliefiness.

and i have the ironman bluray (along with the new hulk) currently sat in my bedroom at home but i won't get my hands on it til christmas day :( and dark knight will be joining it in crimbolimbo soon too :(
#481 at 16:00:49 - 17/11/2008
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eviltobz said:
billdoor said:
Iron Man is the best superhero film I've seen, although I've yet to see the 2nd batman film.

i'd say that between the two of em, they prolly are the best superhero films so far.


Fully agree there - they're very different types of superhero film, but the best example of each type by far.
#482 at 16:10:42 - 17/11/2008
billdoor
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I loved the 1st two spidey films- the first one with the level of effects that can be done now days would be my fave. For me the thing Iron Man does so well is connect the suit to the person, I genuinely think Stark is in the suit, something I didn't manage with the first spidey film.
#483 at 16:11:31 - 17/11/2008
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The effects in the first spidey film look distinctly hooky by today's standards. The sequel's good though, I mean the job they did with Doc Oc was ace.

Iron Man's excellent though, really stands up to a bit of close scrutiny on BR (in fact judging by the way everyone looks in this, Hollywood's taken notice of the extra work they need to do to stop everyone looking fucking horrible and veiny!)

#484 at 16:15:10 - 17/11/2008
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I watched 1960's Batman on Friday. Couldn't stop laughing!

'Some days a guy just can't get rid of a bomb!'

:)
#485 at 16:50:55 - 17/11/2008
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I enjoyed Iron Man, but seriously - best superhero movie ever? It would have been way below average without RDJ or Jeff Bridges. And the end showdown was extremely lame.

K
#486 at 16:51:36 - 17/11/2008
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but what is a superhero film about if it's not the hero and the villain he has to defeat?
#487 at 16:56:17 - 17/11/2008
Kay
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Didn't think much of the villain as well, tbh. Also, there wasn't enough action - which would have been fine if the general plot + characterisation (other than with Iron Man himself) had been decent, but it wasn't.

TDK was better, although that was also nowhere near as good as the hype had suggested.

K
#488 at 17:11:09 - 17/11/2008
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That's the inherent problem with superheroes though, they need super villains. I think Iron Man got it right by not having some spandex clad idiot- the way they hamstrung Iron Man for the final fight with a technically inferior suit worked well for me.

Doc Oct has been the best baddy so far though :)
#489 at 17:16:50 - 17/11/2008
peej
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I think the Iron Man villain was a good compromise though it's one that way too many films have fallen back on.

The last Hulk movie virtually did the same thing. Same tech that created Banner - goes on to create his supervillainous nemesis. Same deal in Iron Man.

That said, I liked it because I thought the underlying story and Iron Man "genesis" was dealt with really well without feeling too cheesy and too much of a reinvention of the comic character.

And it was also the only time I've genuinely laughed at one of Stan Lee's cameos too :)
#490 at 17:24:41 - 17/11/2008
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peej said:I think the Iron Man villain was a good compromise though it's one that way too many films have fallen back on.

The last Hulk movie virtually did the same thing. Same tech that created Banner - goes on to create his supervillainous nemesis. Same deal in Iron Man.

I was under the impression that Iron Monger was a real villain from the comic books. The only change they made was to make Obadiah work for Stark instead of a rival company.

I'm totally with you on the Paltrow thing, by the way. I'm not sure if she has mellowed with age or with pregnancy, but she's much more attractive (and less annoying) in IM than she's ever been.
#491 at 17:53:01 - 17/11/2008
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Kay said:I enjoyed Iron Man, but seriously - best superhero movie ever? It would have been way below average without RDJ or Jeff Bridges. And the end showdown was extremely lame.

K


Best of it's type I would say, to whit - the bombastic Marvel superhero movie. Definitely not the best superhero movie full stop, 'cos everyone knows that's Doc Savage:Man Of Bronze.
#492 at 19:29:36 - 17/11/2008
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I prefer Dark Knight and Batman Begins to Iron Man but it's certainly the best Marvel film I've seen so far. Marvel's problem is that their most iconic characters have relatively few enemies that the general public have heard of, compare that to the likes of Batman and it's always going to be a challenge to make something that connects with that audience.

I have no idea who any of the Marvel villians are outside Spiderman and I think they've covered all those I know of in the films already.

It's good that they're finally making films that take their source material reasonably seriously; I don't think I can take another pile of crap like the Fantastic Four.

Is the new Hulk any good then or is it just a poor plot with things fighting?
#493 at 19:50:15 - 17/11/2008
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Thought Iron Man was shit. 3/10 shit.

Downey was superb, but Bridges was a totally unrealistic bad guy (sorry, am I meant to be scared of you?) and it left me completely underwhelmed. And the ridiculous plot holes, even for a superhero movie, were too much for me to stomach.

Loved Spidey 1. Enjoyed Spidey 2. Thought the first Batman was great (yet to see the second one; don't do Cinemas). Superman was alright but nothing more than that. Iron Man just disappointed me on every level, apart from Downey.
#494 at 20:42:58 - 17/11/2008
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Micro_Explosion said:
Is the new Hulk any good then or is it just a poor plot with things fighting?

I'd say it's pretty damn good. didn't do it for me as much as ironman, but it was definitely enjoyable, and much better than the last one. between hulk & ironman i'm really looking forward to the future marvel stuff, especially as they tie the universe together a bit more.
#495 at 10:42:11 - 18/11/2008
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kentmonkey said:Loved Spidey 1. Enjoyed Spidey 2.


I like how you deign not to give Spider-Man 3 a mention. The editing and direction on it is fucking atrocious.

Oh and, Lou Ferrigno cameos > Stan Lee Cameos. The one in Spidey 3 is just cringe-worthy.
#496 at 10:48:29 - 18/11/2008
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Spidey 3 was actually so bad that there were a couple of points during it that I felt genuinely embarrased for Maguire and Dunst because if I was embarrased watching it, christ knows what they must've felt like starring in it.

#497 at 11:02:33 - 18/11/2008
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peej said:Spidey 3 was actually so bad that there were a couple of points during it that I felt genuinely embarrased for Maguire and Dunst because if I was embarrased watching it, christ knows what they must've felt like starring in it.



It could have been fine if they'd stuck with one main villain. Getting rid of the Sandman and making Venom a little more powerful would have achieved the same aim as two bad guys being too much for Spidey to tackle single-handed. This would have left more time for a bit of character development, like more than 5 minutes in the middle to make Parker turn bad and back again. Ooh look, I've gone a bit EMO and can do the mambo - I'm eeeevil.
#498 at 11:09:51 - 18/11/2008
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Agreed. Just about every superhero franchise that has double-teamed with the super villains has ended up becoming a really terrible film. Look at Batman and Robin for example. They took one of the (potentially) more interesting Batman baddies (Mr Freeze) and then stuck in Poison Ivy, then went so completely camp that it was worse than the 60s stuff.

#499 at 11:16:10 - 18/11/2008
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Batman films have always been more notable for the villains really, mostly because Bats is as dull as ditchwater.
#500 at 11:19:01 - 18/11/2008
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Cor, good job Morriss doesn't come here, he'd be washing your mouth out with carbolic :)

I like Bats. But the swingometer with Batman films seems to go from making him moody and dull to camp and embarrasing with no middle ground. Weirdly, the animated Bats got the balance right.

Supervillains are always more interesting than heroes though. S'why I'm still pissed off that they made such a mess of the Wanted movie.
#501 at 11:24:13 - 18/11/2008
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Super villians are boring imho. They're only needed when the super hero is too powerful to deal with normal criminals. I suppose that's why I like Daredevil (in comic form I should add) so much, he spends a lot of him time beating up gangsters.
#502 at 12:52:16 - 18/11/2008
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Hmm I dunno, I liked the idea behind Wanted. All the supervillains ganging together to finally eradicate superheroes.

The graphic novel's ace, just a pity the film wasn't despite having ole fishlips in it
#503 at 12:53:56 - 18/11/2008
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I wasn't too keen on the second (new) Batman film - I far preferred Begins, despite the pacing in that. The imax scenes were damn impressive, but I think overall I'm happier with a slow start than a dodgy last third.

Anyway, the best superhero film is still Robocop, and I won't hear any argument.

Anyway, two new (to me films) to report:

Doomwatch: Winter Angel (1999)

Pretty good version of the TV series, with Trevor Eve perfectly at home as a really clever grumpy bloke. Very cheesy with quality 1980s CGI, pretty watchable all said.

Red Rock West (1992)

Take Nick Cage before he went shit, add Dennis Hopper gurning it up, plus a proper femme fatale in the form of Laura Flynn Boyle, and add more twists than Switzerland, and you've got one of the best colour noir films out there. Slow to start, as it should be, but soon enough Cage is getting mistaken for a hit man and takes a job on to kill the bar owner's wife, and things start moving in the right way soon enough.
#504 at 13:47:24 - 18/11/2008
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Red Rock West is a fantastic film. \o/
#505 at 20:19:12 - 18/11/2008
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Thank You For Smoking - Eckhart is fantastic with one of the best performances I've seen for a while, even though I can't see him without thinking he's Harvey Dent. Amusing film that actually managed to make me like the person that should be hated.
#506 at 11:59:14 - 22/11/2008
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Wall-E. I knew there wasn't going to be much dialogue in the first half but I was still surprised they managed to get away with doing it. Genuinely felt sorry for the little cube at some points, even though it was following a pretty similar general plot to ever other pixar film ever.

It was funnier than their last couple of films and certainly a lot braver, I can see young kids and teens not enjoying it as much though.

The extra short (rabbit and magician) is one of the funniest bits of work they, or Disney, have done in a long time though - pure slapstick fun that reminded me of the old Bugs Bunny shorts. But better.
#507 at 13:02:40 - 23/11/2008
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Yeah, I saw Wall-E the other day for the first time too. It's a real return to form from Pixar - you can feel the amount of care they've taken with the film, not only in terms of the visuals, but also the sound and the pacing of the film (which is especially impressive given there's only one character for the first bit of the film).

I could never say it was honestly better than Monsters Inc or Toy Story, but it's right up there with them.

Also saw The Incredible Hulk, but I don't think it's really my sort of film - I fast-forwarded through most of it. Interesting first half, with Ed Norton getting chased around by Tim Roth through the back streets of Rio, but as soon as the big green guy turns up it all gets a bit silly.

But like I say, it's not really my sort of film. If I wasn't stuck on a plane then I'd probably have never seen it.
#508 at 13:33:05 - 23/11/2008
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I saw this heart warming drama of contradiction, failed relationships and ultimately realisation of what you have. Called What Happened in Vegas, with Cameron Diaz and Mr Demi Moore.
#509 at 16:55:49 - 24/11/2008
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Watched the new Indiana Jones film (yeah I know, I'm slow)

Fucking hell. What a mess.
#510 at 08:59:50 - 25/11/2008

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